Catholic Commentary
The People's Defiant Reply and Defense of the Queen of Heaven
15Then all the men who knew that their wives burned incense to other gods, and all the women who stood by, a great assembly, even all the people who lived in the land of Egypt, in Pathros, answered Jeremiah, saying,16“As for the word that you have spoken to us in Yahweh’s name, we will not listen to you.17But we will certainly perform every word that has gone out of our mouth, to burn incense to the queen of the sky and to pour out drink offerings to her, as we have done, we and our fathers, our kings and our princes, in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem; for then we had plenty of food, and were well, and saw no evil.18But since we stopped burning incense to the queen of the sky, and pouring out drink offerings to her, we have lacked all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine.”19The women said, “When we burned incense to the queen of the sky and poured out drink offerings to her, did we make her cakes to worship her, and pour out drink offerings to her, without our husbands?”
When suffering follows our sins, we blame God for punishing us for abandoning the very lies that caused the punishment in the first place.
Confronted by Jeremiah's prophetic warning, the Jewish exiles in Egypt mount a collective, defiant refusal to obey the word of God. They invoke a distorted reading of their own history—claiming that prosperity came not from fidelity to Yahweh but from their worship of the "Queen of Heaven" (the Babylonian-Assyrian goddess Ishtar/Astarte)—and the women explicitly assert that their husbands were complicit partners in this idolatry. The passage lays bare the full anatomy of apostasy: a hardened will, a falsified memory, communal self-justification, and the domestication of sin into normalcy.
Verse 15 — The Great Assembly of Refusal The scene is deliberately dramatic. This is not a private disagreement but a public, corporate act of defiance: "all the men," "all the women," "a great assembly," "all the people" in Egypt and Pathros (Upper Egypt, where the exiles had settled after fleeing the Babylonian destruction). The fourfold repetition of "all" underscores that this is a communal apostasy—not one lapsed individual but an entire displaced community closing ranks against the prophet. Jeremiah, who has consistently faced rejection from kings, priests, and false prophets in Jerusalem (see chs. 26, 36, 37–38), now faces rejection from the very remnant God had warned him about (ch. 42–43). The assembly answers him, not God—a telling grammatical signal: they have already depersonalized the prophetic word.
Verse 16 — The Explicit Rejection of the Word "We will not listen to you" (Hebrew: lo' nishma' 'elekha) is an act of formal covenant rupture. In the Deuteronomic framework that pervades Jeremiah, "listening" (shema') to God's voice is the foundational act of covenant fidelity (Deut 6:4; 28:1). Its refusal is not merely disobedience but ontological self-exclusion from the covenant relationship. The phrase echoes Israel's earliest rebellions (cf. Jer 7:26: "they did not listen or incline their ear"). Note that they do not dispute the truth of what Jeremiah says, nor do they deny that it comes from Yahweh—they simply announce they will not be bound by it. This is the purest form of defiance: not intellectual doubt but a volitional rejection of divine authority.
Verse 17 — The False Logic of Prosperity and the Queen of Heaven The exiles now construct their theological counter-argument: causation by correlation. They remember that when they burned incense to the Queen of Heaven (the goddess Ishtar/Astarte/Inanna—a syncretistic astral deity associated with the planet Venus, fertility, war, and queenship), they had "plenty of food," were "well," and saw "no evil." The argument is a classic inversion of covenant theology: they attribute the blessings of Yahweh's patience to the efficacy of their idolatry. The Queen of Heaven is not a new temptation; Jeremiah has already condemned her worship in Jerusalem (Jer 7:18), where even children collected wood and fathers kindled fire while mothers kneaded dough to make her votive cakes (kawwānim)—the whole family recruited into sacral idolatry.
The phrase "every word that has gone out of our mouth" is a shocking parody of covenant language. In Deuteronomy 8:3, Israel lives by "every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God." Here, the exiles substitute their own collective speech—their vows, their liturgical commitments to a false deity—for the living Word of God. They have constructed a counter-canon, a counter-magisterium of communal tradition ("we "), and they appeal to it with the same reverence Jeremiah appeals to Torah.
Catholic tradition illuminates this passage at several distinct and irreplaceable levels.
On the Nature of Conscience and Willful Blindness: The Catechism teaches that conscience can err when a person "takes little trouble to find out what is true and good" or "allows itself to be blinded by habit and sin" (CCC 1791). The exiles in Jer 44 are not confused—they are willfully blinded. St. Thomas Aquinas, in his treatise on ignorantia (Summa Theologiae I-II, q. 76), distinguishes between invincible and vincible ignorance; the people's error here is manifestly vincible: they have heard the prophet, they acknowledge the word comes from Yahweh, and they refuse it. This is the paradigmatic case of what Aquinas calls obstinatio—the confirmed will in evil.
On the Distortion of Liturgical Memory: The Second Vatican Council's Dei Verbum (§8) teaches that authentic Tradition is the living transmission of the Word of God under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. The exiles construct a false tradition—"we and our fathers"—that supplants divine revelation with communal habit. This warns against the perennial temptation to privilege sentimental custom over genuine Tradition. The Fathers, including St. Jerome (Commentary on Jeremiah) and St. John Chrysostom, saw this as a warning against any appeal to ancestral practice that contradicts the living Word: consuetudo sine veritate vetustas erroris est ("custom without truth is the antiquity of error"—Cyprian, Epistle 74).
On the Queen of Heaven — Clarifying Catholic Devotion to Mary: Protestant polemic has sometimes alleged a connection between Catholic Marian devotion and the pagan "Queen of Heaven" condemned here. Catholic tradition firmly distinguishes these: Ishtar/Astarte is a goddess worshipped in place of the one true God, whereas the title Regina Caeli applied to Mary (cf. Lumen Gentium §59) is a Christological honor—Mary is Queen because of her singular relationship to Christ the King, never in competition with God. The Catechism (CCC 966) grounds Mary's queenship entirely in her glorification in Christ. The difference is not semantic but ontological: one is the worship of a creature as deity; the other is the veneration of a creature who points wholly toward God.
On Communal and Domestic Sin: Pope Francis, in Amoris Laetitia (§33), warns of how sin can become "embedded in the structure of families." Verse 19 illustrates precisely this: when a household organizes its domestic rhythms around a disordered cult, individual conversion becomes nearly impossible without communal rupture. The Church's tradition of (, cf. CCC 1655) implies that the family can be a school of either virtue or vice—a household liturgy of either God's Word or its counterfeit.
The people's argument in these verses is disturbingly contemporary: things were better when we did it our way. This is the logic behind every Catholic who quietly abandons sacramental practice because life has seemed comfortable without it, or who returns to old vices after suffering follows their conversion. The exiles have reversed cause and effect—a spiritual error the Catechism calls the darkening of reason by sin (CCC 1707).
For Catholic families today, verse 19 is especially searching. When an entire household participates in something spiritually harmful—whether the cult of consumerism, the liturgy of screens and entertainment, or the routinized skipping of Sunday Mass—the very consensus of the family can make it feel normal and even faithful to tradition. The husbands knew. The wives reminded them. Everyone agreed. Unanimity is not holiness.
Practically: examine the domestic liturgies of your home. What rhythms structure family time—prayer, Scripture, the Rosary, or their substitutes? Ask honestly whether any comfort, habit, or family tradition has become a small "queen of heaven" — something you credit with your peace that rightfully belongs to God alone. Jeremiah's rejected word remains: no false patron can ultimately deliver what God alone gives.
Verse 18 — The Argument from Suffering Having invoked past prosperity, they now argue from present suffering: since they stopped the Queen of Heaven cult (under Josiah's reform? or under the trauma of siege?), they have experienced sword and famine—the very curses Jeremiah himself had announced from Yahweh. The tragic irony is that they are experiencing the covenant curses of Deuteronomy 28 because of their idolatry, yet they interpret these same sufferings as punishment for abandoning idolatry. This is the satanic inversion of cause and effect that sin invariably produces: the disordered soul reads the consequences of its own sin as arguments for persisting in sin.
Verse 19 — The Women Assert Domestic Authority The women now speak separately and defensively: their husbands knew and consented—indeed, the kneading of the votive cakes and the pouring of libations were domestic liturgies involving the whole household. This is not simply an exculpatory plea; it is a claim about the social structure of the idolatry. The women were the primary practitioners of the Queen of Heaven cult in its domestic setting (cf. Jer 7:18), but they insist they acted in full spousal solidarity. The verse reveals how deeply the cult had been domesticated—woven into the fabric of hearth and home, family tradition, and marital consensus—making its renunciation feel like an attack on family identity itself.
Typological and Spiritual Senses Typologically, this passage prefigures the hardened heart that refuses prophetic grace at every turn. The Church Fathers (notably Origen, Homilies on Jeremiah) read Jeremiah's rejected preaching as a figure of the rejected Christ, whose word is likewise dismissed by those who have domesticated a comfortable religion of their own construction. The "great assembly" that defies Jeremiah echoes the crowd that cries "We have no king but Caesar" (Jn 19:15)—a community that chooses a worldly patron over the living God. The Queen of Heaven cult, a religion of abundance, fertility, and self-satisfaction, stands typologically as the prototype of every religion that serves the self under the guise of the sacred.